[sigcomm] attendance policies for SIGCOMM-affiliated events

[Jennifer Rexford]

Scott,

I agree that you raise an important point.  The HotNets steering 
committee has done yeoman service in creating a very successful event. 
As I mentioned in my first e-mail on the list, we should do everything 
we can not to get in the way of dedicated volunteers trying to do their 
jobs and create successful events, by erring on the side of autonomy 
wherever possible.

This whole discussion arose in the context of what specific (hopefully 
very limited) areas, if any, the SIG should provide guidlines or 
requirements to the steering committees of sponsored events.  The goal 
is limit the intrusion to as few areas as possible, motivated by the 
values of the SIG and the needs of the community.  I think this is a 
useful discussion to have.  I'm sorry that implicit criticism -- and 
perhaps moreso the perception of criticism -- of a specific event 
(namely HotNets) has creeped into the discussion.  That was certainly 
not our intent.

Throughout this discussion, we're all just trying to do our jobs, too, 
in terms of responding to the needs of the community.  This is not fun. 
  Folks on the list may disagree on the details, but I think we are all 
trying to act with the good of the community in mind.  On that, I don't 
think there is disagreement.

-- Jen

> On Nov 11, 2005, at 4:33 AM, Roch Guerin wrote:
> 
> 
>>I don't think that anyone is disagreeing with the potential  
>>benefits associated with small, focused venues such as HotNets, and  
>>in particular of the positive role that HotNets has played over the  
>>past few years.  In that respect, I believe that the concerns that  
>>Scott expressed in his last email are not the issue.
> 
> 
> 
> With all due respect, Roch, I think they are the issue.  My point,  
> which you are free to ignore but not to dismiss, is that this mailing  
> list has been full of criticism and back-seat driving, and completely  
> devoid of gratitude.  In an environment like this, few people are  
> going to step forward and take the initiative to do good things.   
> Given the level of hand-wringing over a handful of at-large invitees,  
> if I were on the hotnets steering committee I'd immediately take  
> hotnets out of SIGCOMM and not look back....
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