[rbridge] Proposed replacement for a paragraph in section 2.3of draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-07

[Silvano Gai]

Radia,

There are many differences:
1) the old text is not "per port"
2) the "default case" of the old text is not what we have discussed
3) The old text does not specify the forwarder sending hello on the
forwarded VLANs

-- Silvano

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbridge-bounces at postel.org [mailto:rbridge-bounces at postel.org]
On
> Behalf Of Radia Perlman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:19 AM
> To: Claudio DeSanti
> Cc: Rbridge at postel.org
> Subject: Re: [rbridge] Proposed replacement for a paragraph in section
> 2.3of draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-07
> 
> Not sure what's wrong with the paragraph to be replaced, other than
> a) the last line says "VLAN-V" when it shbould be "VLAN-x", and
> b) it doesn't mention which VLANs to act as appointed forwarder on,
> though I think that is
> elsewhere in the spec.
> 
> It would be easier to evaluate the replacement text if you explained
> what is being fixed. Is it
> a technical change? (I think not, but maybe there's something subtle
> there that you are trying
> to fix). Or is it only editorial, to make things more precise? Or is
it
> to include the
> explanation of appointed VLAN forwarders? (which  is already explained
> elsewhere in
> the base spec, I think, for instance, section 4.2.4,   4.2.5). But I
> could not find a section
> that talks about what is in IS-IS Hellos, where presumably we'd
explain
> about the set of
> VLANs to volunteer to be VLAN forwarder for, and where the DRB
appoints
> VLAN forwarders
> in its own Hello.
> 
> 
> 
> As for the proposed replacement
> text...it is mostly fine, though it's harder to read I think, and
> certainly longer. Maybe it's
> more precise, but for instance:
> "
> 
> c) Forwarding VLANs set: the set of VLANs for which an RBridge port is
> appointed VLAN forwarder on a link."
> 
> implies that an RBridge forwards on that set regardless of what the
DRB
> says.
> In fact, the DRB has to be the one to appoint the forwarder. Perhaps
this
> should be called "Potential forwarding VLAN set" and later, in
> 
> "
> b) act as a VLAN forwarder for the VLANs included in its Forwarding
> VLANs set; and"
> 
> say "act as a VLAN forwarder for the VLANs which the DRB appoints it
to be
> forwarder for"
> 
> And also, a non-DRB must list, in its HEllo, the "potential forwarding
> set",
> and the DRB must specify somehow (logically in the IS-IS Hello, but in
> theory
> the DRB's Hello could get too large if the DRB has to appoint VLAN
> forwarders
> on a fairly random set of VLANs).
> 
> We could say the DRB R1 can specify a range of VLANs for
> R2 to be appointed forwarder on, and it only means the set of
> VLANs in the range that R2 volunteered for when R2 announced, in its
own
> Hello,
> its potential forwarding set.
> 
> Radia
> 
> 
> Claudio DeSanti wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as just presented, this is a proposed clarification for an existing
> > paragraph in section 2.3 of the base protocol spec.
> > Thanks,
> >
> >               Claudio.
> >
> > -------
> >
> >
> > Existing paragraph:
> >
> >    By default, RBridges tag IS-IS Hellos with VLAN 1. However, an
> >    RBridge MAY be configured to transmit Hellos on a set of VLANs,
and
> >    if elected DRB, to designate to the other RBridges on the link
which
> >    VLAN to tag Hellos with. Once the DRB, say RB1, is elected, and
> >    specifies the designated VLAN, say VLAN-x, on which to send
Hellos,
> >    (1) all RBridges on the link, except the DRB, transmit Hellos
tagged
> >    only with VLAN-x, (2) all RBridge-RBridge communication
(including
> >    Hellos, forwarded data packets, and LSPs) are tagged with VLAN-x,
and
> >    (3) the DRB only lists, in its Hello, and in the pseudonode LSP,
the
> >    set of RBridges from which the DRB hears VLAN-V tagged packets.
> >
> >
> > Proposed replacement:
> >
> >
> > An RBridge maintains per each port the following parameters:
> > a) Announcing VLANs set: the set of VLANs where an RBridge port
> > announces IS-IS Hellos on a link;
> > b) Designated VLAN: the VLAN used by an RBridge port to communicate
with
> > other RBridge ports on a link; and
> > c) Forwarding VLANs set: the set of VLANs for which an RBridge port
is
> > appointed VLAN forwarder on a link.
> >
> > By default the Announcing VLANs set contains all the VLANs active on
the
> > port, however it may be configured to contain a subset of them.
> >
> > When a port of an RBridge becomes operational, the RBridge MUST
transmit
> > IS-IS Hellos on each VLAN of the Announcing VLANs set of that port.
> >
> > If the RBridge is elected DRB for the link to which that port is
> > connected, the RBridge MUST:
> > a) continue to send IS-IS Hellos per each VLAN of the Announcing
VLANs
> > set of that port;
> > b) designate the Designated VLAN to be used to communicate with the
> > other RBridges connected to that link; and
> > c) establish the Forwarding VLANs set per each RBridge connected to
that
> > link, including itself.
> >
> > If the RBridge is not elected DRB for the link to which that port is
> > connected and its Forwarding VLANs set is not empty, the RBridge
MUST:
> > a) learn from the DRB the Designated VLAN on that link;
> > b) act as a VLAN forwarder for the VLANs included in its Forwarding
> > VLANs set; and
> > c) transmit IS-IS Hellos messages only on the Designated VLAN and on
the
> > VLANs of its Forwarding VLANs set.
> >
> > If the RBridge is not elected DRB for the link to which that port is
> > connected and its Forwarding VLANS set is empty, the RBridge MUST:
> > a) learn from the DRB the Designated VLAN on that link; and
> > b) transmit IS-IS Hellos messages only on the Designated VLAN.
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