[rbridge] Ingress Rbridge and FTAG again

[Joe Touch]

Silvano Gai wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> Let's get this straight so we don't waste any more time: "are you saying
> that the WG charter is written, the A&P statement is drafted" and
> therefore the WG is no longer interested in listening to other
> requirements?

Anything not stated explicitly in the charter is out-of-scope, UNLESS it
is needed to support something in the charter indirectly.  This isn't a
matter of "permitted unless prohibited" - the point of the charter is to
constrain the scope. It's also not a matter of "once you open the spec,
anything is on the table"; that's not how charters work.

I - and Eric - are saying that if you want to add requirements, FIRST
you need to get the WG consensus on changing the charter. THEN we need
to get the AD's on board. THEN we do the work to address the requirements.

Joe

> 
> -- Silvano
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rbridge-bounces at postel.org [mailto:rbridge-bounces at postel.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Joe Touch
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:36 AM
>> To: Dinesh G Dutt
>> Cc: rbridge at postel.org
>> Subject: Re: [rbridge] Ingress Rbridge and FTAG again
>>
>>
>>
>> Dinesh G Dutt wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Gray, Eric wrote:
>>>> The argument that "You're changing things, and while you're at it,
>>>> why not change these other things" is a particularly obnoxious old
>>>> Dinosaur.
>>>>
>>> I have shown the reasons and with the exception of you and Joe, I
>>> haven't heard any objection to including the ingress Rbridge (at
> least)
>>> or the FTAG. So, from a democratic spirit, it is upto you two to
> give us
>>> technical reasons for objecting instead of saying "its not in the
>>> charter" or "you can't change that". The charter doesn't explicitly
>>> forbid doing traceroute, for example.
>> Charters define what is permitted; that which is not permitted is
>> prohibited, unless it is needed to support what is permitted.
>>
>> Otherwise, charters would be wide-open to anything not prohibited; we
>> don't have time to enumerate that list.
>>
>> Joe
> 

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