[rbridge] Updated charter

Erik Nordmark erik.nordmark at sun.com
Tue Feb 1 15:37:05 PST 2005


Joe Touch wrote:

> While I cannot argue with the motivation, I don't think this is a place 
> where we can "eat our cake and have it too". IMO, briding dissimilar 
> MTUs might be possible, but bridging different L2 address spaces implies 
> a common address space, which means something very much like IP (with 
> all the warts noted above).
> 
> FWIW, if we end up peeking into L3 to get this done, then we ought to 
> call it a router and be done with it.

The charter calls it neither a router nor a bridge, but a hybrid.

The solutions that have been discussed will replace the L2 headers (at 
least in some cases, and encapsulate in another L2 header in some 
cases), and not decrement the L3 TTL, which is different than a bridge 
(which doesn't replace the L2 header) and a router (which decrements TTL).

Is there a problem with the devices being hybrids?
They will preserve the behavior that an IP packet injected at one end of 
  the link will appear unmodified at the other end.


> Optimizing is one thing, but talking about specifics (involving 
> flooding) or not is where the charter is getting a bit overspecific.

Ack. Let me see what additional comments Margaret receives from the IESG 
and IAB.

> As to the last bullet, see RFC1812, which IMO provides exactly the L3 
> operations that interconnect disparate L2s.
> 
>> FYI: Some more IAB/IESG comments have come in asking for more 
>> clarifications on the relationship between this WG and the routing 
>> protocol WG(s), so we will most likely need more detail on that front 
>> in the charter.
> 
> 
> Agreed. This doesn't appear to discuss the encapsulation of routing 
> within the rbridge - that it is necessarily opaque to other routing 
> protocols, e.g., BGP in ways unlike other routing protocols.

Do you mean opaque to the routing protocol used to carry IP 
reachability? (where the ipvlx routing protocol carries L2 address 
reachability)
Or something different?

> Concrete list of work items, agreed.
> 
> Concrete list of approaches to those work items is the task of the WG, IMO.

I'll make another pass over the charter and hopefully fix this.

    Erik


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