[rbridge] ARP proxying

Joe Touch touch at ISI.EDU
Fri Dec 16 16:52:41 PST 2005


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Gray, Eric wrote:
> Radia/Joe,
> 
> 	We can call it ARP caching (which would make some sense
> - possibly more than ARP replay), 

ARP caching is what hosts and proxy ARP-ing routers already do (ala
RFC1122).
See TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol 1, section 4.3.

> ARP replay or ARP Proxy.  I
> am not sure where Joe's definition of "proxy" comes from, but
> - if we assume that definition, then ARP proxy is not what we
> have talked about at all.

FWIW, proxy ARP is in RFC1009, as referred to by RFC1122.
See TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol 1, section 4.6, which describes it in detail
as I have, and equates it to "promiscuous ARP" and the "ARP hack".

> 	However, ARP proxy/caching/replay/<whatever> is really
> an optimization - similar to the multicast optimizations of
> Sue's draft.  I am reasonably sure that it does not need to
> be part of the base-line RBridge specification in order to be
> of use (again, much like the multicast optimization).
> 
> 	Is this in the WG charter?  Should it be?

Optimizations don't need to be in the charter, IMO.

Joe

> 
> --
> Eric
> 
> --> -----Original Message-----
> --> From: rbridge-bounces at postel.org 
> --> [mailto:rbridge-bounces at postel.org] On Behalf Of Radia Perlman
> --> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:37 PM
> --> To: Developing a hybrid router/bridge.
> --> Subject: Re: [rbridge] ARP proxying
> --> 
> --> Yes Joe, you are right. This was a confusion over the word. 
> --> I have used
> --> "ARP proxy" to mean someone replies to the request, whether 
> --> it be with
> --> the target's actual MAC address, or with one's own MAC 
> --> address. So with
> --> your definition ("proxy" means you reply with your own MAC 
> --> address), 
> --> then you
> --> are right...we do not want RBridges to do ARP proxy. But we
> --> do want them to do ARP replay.
> --> 
> --> I suspect I'm not the only one who uses "ARP proxy" in the 
> --> more general way,
> --> so we have to be careful not to confuse people when we say 
> --> RBridges will
> --> not do it.
> --> 
> --> But whatever we call things, I'm glad we aren't disagreeing 
> --> about how 
> --> the thing
> --> works functionally.
> --> 
> --> Radia
> --> 
> --> 
> --> 
> --> Joe Touch wrote:
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