<p>Ofcourse if you werent rate limited.</p>
<p>regardd<br>
arjuna<br>
On Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM, <<a href="mailto:dpreed@reed.com">dpreed@reed.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Bandwidth (actually bitrate - bandwidth is a "classic error" too, as us radio guys continue to grit our teeth at the confusion...) is useless without adequately quick latency.<br>
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> Hence, it is unused so that low latency can be present when it is (suddenly and unpredictably) needed.<br>
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> When someone talks about "filling up bandwidth" - the only image that pops into mind is a completely clogged city road system (LA freeways during rush hour). Full utilization of pavement - must be the best of all possible worlds!<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: "Daniel Havey" <<a href="mailto:dhavey@yahoo.com">dhavey@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:20pm<br>
> To: "Fred Baker (fred)" <<a href="mailto:fred@cisco.com">fred@cisco.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Arjuna Sathiaseelan" <<a href="mailto:arjuna.sathiaseelan@gmail.com">arjuna.sathiaseelan@gmail.com</a>>, "Jon Crowcroft" <<a href="mailto:jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk">jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk</a>>, "<<a href="mailto:end2end-interest@postel.org">end2end-interest@postel.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:end2end-interest@postel.org">end2end-interest@postel.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [e2e] Free Internet & IPv6<br>
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> So those who purchase blocks of bandwidth may give N-P to the community if they choose?<br>
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> Hmmm, that is probably okay, but, N changes over time (diurnal cycle, etc.). When my N increases to near P then the community must drop off the link because the paying users are using it.<br>
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> This sounds a little like whitespace.<br>
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> ...Daniel<br>
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> --- On Wed, 9/19/12, Fred Baker (fred) <<a href="mailto:fred@cisco.com">fred@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > From: Fred Baker (fred) <<a href="mailto:fred@cisco.com">fred@cisco.com</a>><br>
> > Subject: Re: [e2e] Free Internet & IPv6<br>
> > To: "<<a href="mailto:dhavey@yahoo.com">dhavey@yahoo.com</a>>" <<a href="mailto:dhavey@yahoo.com">dhavey@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> > Cc: "Jon Crowcroft" <<a href="mailto:jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk">jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk</a>>, "Arjuna Sathiaseelan" <<a href="mailto:arjuna.sathiaseelan@gmail.com">arjuna.sathiaseelan@gmail.com</a>>, "<<a href="mailto:end2end-interest@postel.org">end2end-interest@postel.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:end2end-interest@postel.org">end2end-interest@postel.org</a>><br>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 6:00 PM<br>
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> > On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Daniel Havey wrote:<br>
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> > > I wonder why the bandwidth is unused in the first<br>
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> > The most common reason is related to the diurnal cycle. When<br>
> > everyone's asleep, only the backup tool is running.<br>
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> > The one after that is that bandwidth is generally purchased<br>
> > (for money) in fixed increments. If I need N bps and my<br>
> > options are M and P, where M < N < P, I either accept<br>
> > being congested some percentage of the time and go with the<br>
> > lower value, or increase to the upper one. In the latter<br>
> > case, I never use P-N.</p>