For those who forgot the original post, the problem that I see is:<br><br>IETF is blocking technology.<br><br>1. No one should touch the existing IPv4 Internet (except those who run it)<br>2. IPv6 cannot be deployed<br>3. IPv6 means IP research is done. This is very harmful.<br>
<br>IETF&#39;s role is not making design decisions for others, it is ***enabling new technology***. <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Pars Mutaf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pars.mutaf@gmail.com" target="_blank">pars.mutaf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Ross, <br><br>This is off topic no?<br><br>Thanks, <br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Ross Finlayson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:finlayson@live555.com" target="_blank">finlayson@live555.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">    &gt; Even better, perhaps professional mailing<br>

</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">lists like this should start<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">    &gt; rejecting postings from &#39;hobbyist&#39; email<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">addresses (&quot;@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>&quot;,<br>

</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">    &gt; &quot;@<a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>&quot;, etc.)...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sigh, much as I basically agree with you, a number of our<br>

</blockquote><blockquote type="cite">serious contributors<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">also use gmail, etc, these days.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>Not to mention the PhD students who wouldn&#39;t like to be excluded ;-)<br>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div>Do these PhD students&#39; schools not have their own domain name? :-)<div><br></div><div>Note that it&#39;s possible to let gmail manage email to/from addresses that use other domain names.  See:<a href="http://productforums.google.com/forum/#%21topic/gmail/tEaJstfhzeI" target="_blank">http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/tEaJstfhzeI</a></div>

<div><br>The problem is not the &#39;gmail&#39; service per se (provided that you don&#39;t mind your email being scanned :-).  The problem is the &quot;@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>&quot; email address suffix, which advertises to the world that you&#39;re not particularly relevant.  (Ditto for &quot;@<a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a>&quot;, &quot;@<a href="http://hotmail.com" target="_blank">hotmail.com</a>&quot;, &quot;@<a href="http://aol.com" target="_blank">aol.com</a>&quot; addresses, etc.)</div>

<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>Ross.</div><div><br></div></font></span></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br>
<a href="http://www.content-based-science.org" target="_blank">http://www.content-based-science.org</a><br>
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