[e2e] What's wrong with this picture?

David P. Reed dpreed at reed.com
Sun Sep 6 18:00:16 PDT 2009


For those who have some idea of how TCP does congestion control, I ask 
"what's wrong with this picture?"  And perhaps those who know someone 
responsible at the Internet Access Provider involved, perhaps we could 
organize some consulting help...

(Hint: the problem relates to a question, "why are there no lost IP 
datagrams?", and a second hint is that the ping time this morning was 
about 193 milliseconds.)

Van Jacobsen, Scott Shenker, and Sally Floyd are not allowed to answer 
the question.  (they used to get funding from the IAP involved, but 
apparently that company does not listen to them).

$ ping lcs.mit.edu
PING lcs.mit.edu (128.30.2.121) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 
time=6330 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 
time=6005 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 
time=8509 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 
time=9310 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=5 ttl=44 
time=8586 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=6 ttl=44 
time=7765 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=7 ttl=44 
time=7168 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=8 ttl=44 
time=10261 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=9 ttl=44 
time=10624 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=10 ttl=44 
time=9625 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=11 ttl=44 
time=9725 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=12 ttl=44 
time=8725 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=13 ttl=44 
time=9306 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=14 ttl=44 
time=8306 ms
^C
--- lcs.mit.edu ping statistics ---
24 packets transmitted, 14 received, 41% packet loss, time 33174ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6005.237/8589.365/10624.776/1334.140 ms, pipe 11
$ traceroute lcs.mit.edu
traceroute to lcs.mit.edu (128.30.2.121), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  * * *
  2  172.26.248.2 (172.26.248.2)  693.585 ms  693.415 ms  712.282 ms
  3  * * *
  4  172.16.192.18 (172.16.192.18)  712.700 ms  1356.680 ms  1359.469 ms
  5  12.88.7.205 (12.88.7.205)  1361.306 ms  673.642 ms  673.541 ms
  6  cr84.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.152.134)  673.442 ms  673.371 ms  
673.742 ms
  7  cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.123.7.250)  655.126 ms  654.186 ms  554.690 ms
  8  * * ggr2.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.132.133)  912.385 ms
  9  192.205.33.210 (192.205.33.210)  909.925 ms  911.335 ms  911.204 ms
10  ae-31-53.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.94)  569.740 ms  569.605 
ms  907.409 ms
11  ae-1-5.bar1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.140.93)  369.680 ms  344.495 
ms  345.252 ms
12  ae-7-7.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.69.132.241)  355.645 ms  641.866 
ms  641.367 ms
13  MASSACHUSET.car1.Boston1.Level3.net (4.53.48.98)  636.598 ms  
636.797 ms  635.755 ms
14  B24-RTR-2-BACKBONE-2.MIT.EDU (18.168.1.23)  635.766 ms  634.794 ms  
866.430 ms
15  MITNET.TRANTOR.CSAIL.MIT.EDU (18.4.7.65)  758.305 ms  822.244 ms  
821.202 ms
16  trantor.kalgan.csail.mit.edu (128.30.0.246)  833.699 ms  1055.548 
ms  1116.813 ms
17  zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121)  1114.838 ms  539.951 ms  
620.681 ms
[david at whimsy ~]$ ping 172.26.248.2
PING 172.26.248.2 (172.26.248.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1859 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=1363 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=1322 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=1657 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=1725 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1740 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=1838 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=1738 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=1517 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=978 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=715 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=678 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=638 ms
64 bytes from 172.26.248.2: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=761 ms
^C
--- 172.26.248.2 ping statistics ---
15 packets transmitted, 14 received, 6% packet loss, time 14322ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 638.651/1324.002/1859.725/455.200 ms, pipe 2
$

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