[e2e] Protocols breaking the end-to-end argument
jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Sun Oct 25 08:44:14 PDT 2009
> From: Richard Bennett <richard at bennett.com>
> On the subject of BBN's standing in the early Internet community, I'll
> simply note that the term "Big Bad Neighbor" was a common usage that I
> did not coin myself, and Steve Crocker's comments in RFC 1 had a
> well-understood subtext.
I think you're confusing the "early Internet community" with the 'early
The view of the various divisions at BBN (since at one point the Internet work
was being done in a different division of BBN from that responsible for the
ARPANet) by other workers in the early Internet community was a complex, and
hence lengthy, one - and also off-scope for this list (may I suggest the
'Internet-history' list if you really want to explore the topic).
It seems to me that the 'end-end design ideas' have gotten mixed up in what
is, at the bottom, a fight over how to divide up the economic pie of
This is not an unknown occurrence - scientific work on things like the size
of the Artic ice-sheet, and discovery of new fossil species, has equally
become wound up in disputes which are far larger.
I don't have any pithy response to that, and any longer comment would also be
off-topic, so I will simply make the observation and leave it there.
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